During the years I have the WD16H, and while making this website and
answering people on various items, I found that a number of parts are not
given in the spare parts lists or described in the Maintenance &
Instruction Manuals that I have. The consistency with which they are not given is puzzling. Nobody
bothered to mention it, or Norton was not interested in correcting it.
Other parts are prone to failure but their failure is not
always obvious. Additionally it is helpful to have some dimensions of
parts not so readily available anymore like friction discs for front
fork and steering damper.
The engineering of the bike is lovely crude. Any superfluous oil is
just discarded on the road through multiple copper pipes. Length and
routing of those pipes hardly ever are original nowadays. They tend to
break off or have been cut short after kinking. If you have to make new
ones, some guidance is given on how to get the original look again. When
building up a bike from parts, some of them are difficult to find as
they are not clearly visible in the illustrated parts list. Things like
wheel axle distance bushes can be a problem to find.
I have made some drawings giving the dimensions of them as they can be
Also some special tool are given which can be made to ease
tinkering on the bike.
I hope my experiences can be of help. I expect this to become a small list in the end.
It is not always to be taken as advice. It is always your own decision and
responsibility if you follow what I did/do.
Crankcase breather valve.
To alleviate the pressure differences which develop in the crankcase when
the piston is going up and down, a pressure relieve system is usually
utilized. On the 16H and Big 4 engine, this consists of a a pressure relieve valve
using a steel ball to close the case when the piston goes up, and vents
when the piston goes down. (There is another channel drilled
in the crankcase LH side below the main axle, it will breathe also, but I
am not sure what the exact function is). The crankcase breather tube is visible behind the top end of
the primary chain case and pointed in the direction of the rear chain on
which it spits any excess of oil. This copper breather tube, steel ball
valve and the brass nipples are not very obvious in the spare parts list.
It is listed under Transmission as "Crankcase breather, complete with
Pipe" part no. 9531. It would be more appropriate in the Engine
The Maintenance and Instruction manuals do refer to a valve,
without further description of the configuration.
I did not know a "ball" valve was supposed to be there until I opened
an engine which I obtained later, on which it was mounted. Apparently I
read the M&I manual properly before, but if I did I wouldn't know what
it looked like!
I have found more engines without the valve installed. As a slight
under pressure in de crankcase, when the piston goes up, is beneficial in
sucking some oil through the cylinder backwall channel (lubricating the
rear of the piston skirt). I think it should be present and working.
Bottom view crankcase breather
Top view crankcase breather valve
Felt and leather washers
Many bikes have lost their felt and leather washers over the years.
Many people don't even know there should be any at all. The M&I manual
does sometimes mention them, but they are relatively mysterious.
I made them all and think they are useful in keeping muck out and
grease in. Between the primary chaincase and the engine crankcase a
leather washer is used. Between the primary chaincase and the gearbox a
felt washers is used. I added a felt washer between the magneto and the
timing chain case. Felt washers were further used for : clutch nut, gear
change pawl carrier, wheel hub bearings (both sides), inside primary
chaincase between footrest tube and outer casing, and sheets of packing
felt between the top frame tube and the petrol tank on "later"
bikes. ("Early" bikes used rubber sheets (See pictures of most
Gearbox main axle dished spring washer
The exploded view drawings of the gearbox in the Maintenance and
Instrucion manual as well as various books, show a dished steel spring
washer at the end of the main axle. I personally have never found such a
washer in a gearbox, and wonder if they were actually used on all boxes,
or only the later ones. Its not given in the spare parts list of either
old or newer contracts or postwar civilian lists. The dimensions are I.D.
5/8", O.D. 1 7/16", steel thickness 1/64" and dished height 1/16" as
measured from a used washer by Lex Schmidt.
Clutch Roller Cage with Rollers
The number and dimension of the rollers is not given in either spares
list or maintenance manual. From the M&I manual it can almost be deduced
how many with a small margin of error. In actual fact, 20 rollers are
used 1/4" x 1/4". Post war AMC clutches used 15 rollers of the
same dimension. Not quite sure why the more powerful postwar
machines had less rollers. Only thing I can assume it was an overkill to
use 20 or the material properties had been improved.
Clutch Back Plate
The original military WD16H and Big 4 backplate was a sheetmetal stamping
with a thickness of approx 3 mm. Post war, the early AMC backplates were machined
and have a greater tickness. Later AMC backplates (post 1957?) with incorporated
friction parts may work as well but with the correctly associated plain Clutch
Sprocket. Drawback of using AMC backplate is that the clutch becomes
wider and will interfere with the inner chaincase more easily. A lot of tweeking
may be required to get the parts into such position that they do not rub against each
Kickstarter Axle cork oil retainer washer (3810)
To prevent the oil leaving the gearbox along the kickstarter axle there
is a cork washer fitting in a recess in the gearbox cover.
The washer p/n 3810 is not shown on the M&I manual exploded views.
People have replaced the cork with a proper size O ring.
If you do, make sure it is chemical resistant to the oil. Viton will
definitely do the job.
Driving Side Main Bearing Distance Piece (4155)
On early 16H and Big4 spare parts lists, this metal ring is not
mentioned despite the fact that they are mounted in all engines after
1935. It is placed between the two main bearings at the drive side of
the engine. It is a flat ring with an oil channel at the outer
circumference and 4 recesses on one side, or 6 holes around the
circumference. These recesses are to face the
crankshaft when mounting the bearings in the drive side crankcase half.
This position is taken from the Big 4 exploded engine view in the M&I
manual, a schematic also used for civilian engines between 1938 and
1948. The 16H M&I manual exploded engine view does not show this
Click picture to enlarge
Carburetter needle jet
The Needle jet in the 276 carburetter has been described in the
original AMAL specification sheets for WD16H and B4 as "standard". The Spare
parts lists and the VAOS lists describe it just as Needle Jet with part
The Burlen Ltd company, (present official AMAL manufacturer, see links
page) stated that the "standard" part was actually the 1065. These were
not marked. For reason of optimisation, there are alternative needle
numbered, 105, 106, 107, 108 and 109. The number signifies the internal
diameter in 1/1000th of an inch.
Carburetter needle clip position
Something that crops up all the time is whether you count the needle
clip slot from the top down or bottom up. With all Amal carburettors the
clip position is top down. (ref The Burlen Ltd website).
Fork Spindle Knurled Adjusting Washers (3184)
The drawing of the front fork as given in the Maintenance &
Instruction manual is not completely correct. The drawing only shows 4
knurled washers (10) but it have to be 6 as stated by the spare parts
lists and logic. I adapted the drawing to show the two additional
washers (10) on the bottom rear spindle.
Click picture to enlarge
Magdyno platform variations
When restoring a military 16 H or Big 4 from scratch, one
unfortunate finding could be that the timing chain as dictated by
the Magdyno sprocket does not run in line with the driving timing
When using the wrong platform, there is no gap between the rear of
the timing chain cover and the Magdyno. When using the correct
platform there should be a clear gap between those parts. I cannot
give an exact measurement for the gap as there are many variations
but some measured results are around 3/16" (4,7) mm. To prevent
muck to enter the timing chest through this gap I have made a
fitting felt washer mount between the Magdyno and the timing chain
with such dimension that it does not interfere with the rotating
Magdyno shaft and is not to obtrusive when looking at it from the
The in-line deviation will not happen (on military bikes) when
using the cast iron version as made during the war (casting number
12311), but it can happen when applying the aluminium version as
used before and after the war. The correct aluminium version has a
casting number 11699 on it. One incorrect aluminium version has a casting
number 13814 on it, there may be more aluminium casting numbers.
The civilian Norton part number changed from 3711 (pre war military
and civilian prior to 1938) to 3711A for the cast iron version to
A2/117 in 1946 and 1947.
The 1938/39 civilian Norton part number was 8918, but its not clear
yet if they deviated in dimensions or casting number and whether
they are identical to the pre war 1938/1938 civilian version.
There has also been a part number C2/117 but its not known (at this
moment of writing) in what sense it differs from A2/117 or 3711(A).
The number 13814 was found on a platform labelled C2/117.
NOT SO VISIBLE FAILURES (AND SPARES)
Main Gear Wheel Sleeve Bearing Roller Retainer Washer.
Pictures of the "exploded view" gearbox show that the rollers in
the main gear wheel are neatly housed. What it does not show is that the
rollers are closed into the main gear wheel by a steel washer, against
which the bronze clutch thrust washer rotates when activating the clutch.
Look at the picture given in the
gearbox and transmission
page where I added the washer for clarity.
This hardened steel washer has the tendency to fracture. Two of the 3
gearboxes I have showed this to be the case. The washer is given in the
spare parts lists (all) under no 3598 (Main Gear Wheel Sleeve Bearing
Roller Retainer Washer). I have however not been able to find
original replacements for them, and had them made from a cold work tool
steel (AISI D2 or UNS T30402) and hardened to 59 Rc. Remains of the
original were measured to be 60 Rc so I think I am close enough. See
Parts sketches page for dimensions.
Loosening clutch nuts
On some bikes, you see an additional disc in the large depression
produced in the primary chain case to house the clutch. This is usually
the result of adjustment of the clutch disengagement while actually the
clutch nut has come loose.
So if you ever have the urge to adjust the clutch disengagement stroke, first check the central
nut on the clutch. Despite the spring washer behind it, it loosens on
OIL AND GREASE STUFF (See alo the
running a 16H or Big 4 page)
Oil return lines.
Anybody not having used his bike for some time will have experienced the
blubbering noises and heavy kickstarter actuation when trying to start his
machine. I know, everybody has a perfect oil pump, but me?
The oil tank has drained itself into the engine
crankcase after finding its way past the gears of the oil pump.
My solution to the problem is adding a tap into the oil feed line.
Dangerous? only when you forget to open it before starting. If you
don't trust yourself, hang a "remove before flight" banner on
your handlebar! Modern motorcycles do it for their disk brake lock.
I have used it for 20 years now and forgot it twice. Because I regularly
check the oil tell tale after start up, the omission shows itself
immediately. With such a "high" powered engine as the 16H, I
really don't expect a lot of additional wear on the internals. I have the
experience that you can ride more than 20 km without oil flowing for some time if you don't revv it
up too much. OK I know it is not meant to be so! but the damage seems to
have been negligible as I have used it for years afterwards without
Valve grease nipples.
One of the most amazing features on the 16H engine are its valves. There
are grease nipples on the valve guides as a token addition to subdue valve
stem wear. Initially I used to give them a squirt of high temp molybdenum
based grease. This usually resulted in a fairly sizable smoke curtain at
the beginning of a trip.
I stopped greasing them as I don't think it has any use. I am now about
15.000 miles further since I stoppped greasing and it still works. I know
I don't have the maximum compression, and I don't go faster than 50 MPH
anyhow because that is a very uncomfortable speed on a dinosaur
suspension. But what the heck, put in a new set of valves and guides and I
will ride into my old age pension!
These bikes are rugged!!!! I love it!
Latest tip I got was the use of : "(air) gun grease". This
apparently has a very high temperature resistance, and would therefore be
able to withstand the temperatures of the cylinder head. I will try to get
some and have a go at it myself. Keep you posted. I will first try to do
some temperature measurements on the barrel using a non contact gauge as used
by modellers. Then see if it is useful.
Oil regulating grub screw on top of timing cover
An often asked question reaching me is about the setting of the grub
screw valve on top of the timing cover.
The setting of this grub screw regulates the amount of oil being fed to
the rear of the piston/cylinder.
It is not properly described in the military Maintenance and Instruction
manuals people usually use as guide.
The setting of this was done at the factory and should normally not need
to be touched. After 60 odd years however some cleaning of the insides
may be required or the workmanship of previous owners needs to be
The standard setting of this screw is one turn from the fully closed
position. (According to WC Haycraft in 1936 and EM Franks in 1952).
Its difficult to say if this is still correct for all engines, but
depending on the state of the engine it may need some adjustment.
It should be adjusted such that there is a minimal amount of smoke
coming from the exhaust. As the smoke from the exhaust does not only
come from this setting, its a setting with lots of possible positions.
The standard setting is therefore the most likely correct one.
Oil drain pipes all over the motorcycle
The M/C has a number of pipes added to direct oil coming from
various positions to be discarded at the underside of the M/C in an
probably vain attempt to keep the Gentlemen's trousers clean.
They are: "Tappet guide oil pipe", "Magneto chain cover oil pipe",
"Crankcase breather pipe" and not on engine but oil tank the "Oil tank
air release pipe"
The routing and lengths of these pipes are usually not as original
anymore after 70 years of tinkering by professionals and hobbyists
Based on contemporary pictures I come to the following routing (dotted
lines). Lengths to suit. Both Tappet guide oil pipe and Magneto chain
cover oil pipe were routed between the oil feed and return lines and the
crankcase and ended approximately below the footrest.
Click picture to enlarge, note: lines on my bike as shown are not
THREADS ON NUTS AND BOLTS.
list (MS Excel file) shows all nuts and bolt sizes on the Norton 16H.
Most of these are also used on the Big 4.
The list can be useful if you are searching what taps and dies you
might need to clean up threads or recreate fasteners.